What is my best choice for a nice and loud sound i want these for pleasure listening and pounding the hell out of them with 3000 watts any advices.
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If it were me I'd probably run the Havocs. I really like the Ascendant Audio line up and they are very nice woofers. I've never actually heard the IDMAX but have been told and read that they are the ultimate daily sq woofer since they will play in a variety of enclosures, sound great, take power, and play low most of all. I can say from listening to the Havocs they sound very nice without any strain at higher volume. They will hit the lows well too and don't get sloppy doing so.

Sorry I can't give you a definate on one or the other but I hope it helps out some.
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